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	<title>Comments on: Firefox 3 for Mac OS X: Under the Hood</title>
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		<title>By: Gord</title>
		<link>http://boomswaggerboom.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/firefox-3-for-mac-os-x-under-the-hood/#comment-20052</link>
		<dc:creator>Gord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am loving firefox 3. much better than 2 on a mac thats for sure.  Thanks for the post and the blog, it is a much apreciated resource.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am loving firefox 3. much better than 2 on a mac thats for sure.  Thanks for the post and the blog, it is a much apreciated resource.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://boomswaggerboom.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/firefox-3-for-mac-os-x-under-the-hood/#comment-19917</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re starting to notice on the Mac OS that Firefox 3.x is not properly handling applet window updates. Our applet is sending the display.repaint() call; the OS is not returning applet.update().

Jmol to OS: display.repaint(); // tell the OS to upate the page
OS to Jmol: update(); // tell Jmol to construct a new screen buffer and display it in the window.

Our crude test at http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/docs/examples-11/testmac.htm repeats endlessly until this quirk appears. The OS just doesn&#039;t return Jmol&#039;s call. No other problem with other operating systems that we know of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re starting to notice on the Mac OS that Firefox 3.x is not properly handling applet window updates. Our applet is sending the display.repaint() call; the OS is not returning applet.update().</p>
<p>Jmol to OS: display.repaint(); // tell the OS to upate the page<br />
OS to Jmol: update(); // tell Jmol to construct a new screen buffer and display it in the window.</p>
<p>Our crude test at <a href="http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/docs/examples-11/testmac.htm" rel="nofollow">http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/docs/examples-11/testmac.htm</a> repeats endlessly until this quirk appears. The OS just doesn&#8217;t return Jmol&#8217;s call. No other problem with other operating systems that we know of.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Apple evolves very quickly. Mac OS X 10.3 does not do many of the things we need it to do and we don’t have the resources to offer support that far back.&quot; 

Well maybe WE ALL don&#039;t have the resources to buy a million goddamn new computers.  You&#039;re forcing us to turn perfectly good 4-5 year old systems into toxic e-waste, coz a newer OS won&#039;t run decently on it.  

 &quot;don&#039;t have the resources&quot; - then what was the 55 million dollars Mozilla got from Google Adwords?  Couldn&#039;t you, like *pay* someone to do the dreary scut work volunteers can&#039;t be bothered to do?  That&#039;s what most volunteer organizations do...

I mean, honestly.  Who are you writing Firefox for?  Regular folks, or you &quot;replace your computer every year&quot; digirati?   Grrr.... I thought the whole POINT of the Mozilla foundation was internet democracy and access to all.  Yes it&#039;s true you look at your access logs and don&#039;t see a lot of older OS&#039;s... but this is self-fulfilling.  

What, &quot;use firefox 2 then&quot;?  Two problems.  #1, security is no longer being maintained, so that&#039;s the road to getting hacked.  #2, modern Web application writers think the same way you do, and demand/require more modern browsers. 

So who is in the best position to help with gap between web applications and consumer hardware/OS?   Ding.  The browser folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Apple evolves very quickly. Mac OS X 10.3 does not do many of the things we need it to do and we don’t have the resources to offer support that far back.&#8221; </p>
<p>Well maybe WE ALL don&#8217;t have the resources to buy a million goddamn new computers.  You&#8217;re forcing us to turn perfectly good 4-5 year old systems into toxic e-waste, coz a newer OS won&#8217;t run decently on it.  </p>
<p> &#8220;don&#8217;t have the resources&#8221; &#8211; then what was the 55 million dollars Mozilla got from Google Adwords?  Couldn&#8217;t you, like *pay* someone to do the dreary scut work volunteers can&#8217;t be bothered to do?  That&#8217;s what most volunteer organizations do&#8230;</p>
<p>I mean, honestly.  Who are you writing Firefox for?  Regular folks, or you &#8220;replace your computer every year&#8221; digirati?   Grrr&#8230;. I thought the whole POINT of the Mozilla foundation was internet democracy and access to all.  Yes it&#8217;s true you look at your access logs and don&#8217;t see a lot of older OS&#8217;s&#8230; but this is self-fulfilling.  </p>
<p>What, &#8220;use firefox 2 then&#8221;?  Two problems.  #1, security is no longer being maintained, so that&#8217;s the road to getting hacked.  #2, modern Web application writers think the same way you do, and demand/require more modern browsers. </p>
<p>So who is in the best position to help with gap between web applications and consumer hardware/OS?   Ding.  The browser folks.</p>
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		<title>By: disgruntled</title>
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		<dc:creator>disgruntled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FF3 for mac freezes and crashes after a couple hours of use. Especially on facebook and myspace. FF2 did this too. So dissapointed. Please fix. Plus it&#039;s a resource hog. Losing faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FF3 for mac freezes and crashes after a couple hours of use. Especially on facebook and myspace. FF2 did this too. So dissapointed. Please fix. Plus it&#8217;s a resource hog. Losing faith.</p>
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		<title>By: EdmonCU</title>
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		<dc:creator>EdmonCU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have consistently noticed on all editions of Firefox (w/o any 3rd party-installed add-ons) on all my machines (G4 / dualG4 / dualG5 / Intel Core2Duo Mac) is behaving the same way... (even on a Freshly installed OSX -- used Tiger and Leopard and from v2 until the latest v3 Firefox)

- Flash animations and actions are slow and choppy.
- Java script (IRC) tend to have display problems. Images disappearing w/in the Java applet.

What&#039;s odd is that in Safari, none of these behaviors show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have consistently noticed on all editions of Firefox (w/o any 3rd party-installed add-ons) on all my machines (G4 / dualG4 / dualG5 / Intel Core2Duo Mac) is behaving the same way&#8230; (even on a Freshly installed OSX &#8212; used Tiger and Leopard and from v2 until the latest v3 Firefox)</p>
<p>- Flash animations and actions are slow and choppy.<br />
- Java script (IRC) tend to have display problems. Images disappearing w/in the Java applet.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s odd is that in Safari, none of these behaviors show.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m using identical builds of the latest download of FF 3.0.5. on  an Intel Mac on  10.5.6, and on an old white iBook G3 on 10.4.11.
- Why won&#039;t it load images from  Wikipedia on  the IntelMac? I am now forced to  go  back  to  using  safari.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using identical builds of the latest download of FF 3.0.5. on  an Intel Mac on  10.5.6, and on an old white iBook G3 on 10.4.11.<br />
- Why won&#8217;t it load images from  Wikipedia on  the IntelMac? I am now forced to  go  back  to  using  safari.</p>
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		<title>By: SwineFactory</title>
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		<dc:creator>SwineFactory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry - edit to the above.  The somewhat confusing sentence about designers and parallels should have read:

&quot;A number of the designers that I’ve worked with load parallels on their machines specifically so that they can... etc.&quot;

My non-linear comment writing is catching up with me again, and annihilating what little coherence I manage to hang onto through all of the whiskey ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8211; edit to the above.  The somewhat confusing sentence about designers and parallels should have read:</p>
<p>&#8220;A number of the designers that I’ve worked with load parallels on their machines specifically so that they can&#8230; etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>My non-linear comment writing is catching up with me again, and annihilating what little coherence I manage to hang onto through all of the whiskey <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SwineFactory</title>
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		<dc:creator>SwineFactory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fullscreen support for FF3 on OS X *should* be a priority - us designer types (you know, the ones who own macs? Ostensibly the people you&#039;re developing FF3 on OS X for...) eat up fullscreen mode for the presentation enhancements that if gives when previewing work.  A number of the designers that I&#039;ve worked with load parallels on the machines of their art directors specifically so that they can demo live web work using fullscreen mode.

Bringing it in would be a boon, and remove the whole pesky virtualization thing (for what I would consider to be a defining feature that&#039;s conspicuously absent on a major platform).

I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a good reason that it&#039;s missing, but certainly, it&#039;s not an insurmountable challenge to include it, is it?

I, and many others, would love you long time (and further aim to promote the dominance of FF).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fullscreen support for FF3 on OS X *should* be a priority &#8211; us designer types (you know, the ones who own macs? Ostensibly the people you&#8217;re developing FF3 on OS X for&#8230;) eat up fullscreen mode for the presentation enhancements that if gives when previewing work.  A number of the designers that I&#8217;ve worked with load parallels on the machines of their art directors specifically so that they can demo live web work using fullscreen mode.</p>
<p>Bringing it in would be a boon, and remove the whole pesky virtualization thing (for what I would consider to be a defining feature that&#8217;s conspicuously absent on a major platform).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a good reason that it&#8217;s missing, but certainly, it&#8217;s not an insurmountable challenge to include it, is it?</p>
<p>I, and many others, would love you long time (and further aim to promote the dominance of FF).</p>
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		<title>By: Sasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, people,
I ran into a problem: Firefox 3 for Mac diplays a drop content bug on our site: http://www.nti.org
It is similar to the 3 px drop bug in IE6 for which I had to use a proprietary &lt;!--[if lt IE 7]&gt;--&gt; hack.
The problem only shows in the Firefox 3 for Mac version. Firefox for Windows is fine. I would appreciate any of your insight into how I can combat this in Firefox 3 for Mac. Is there any kind of proprietary code I can use? thanks.
Sasha
nikitin@nti.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, people,<br />
I ran into a problem: Firefox 3 for Mac diplays a drop content bug on our site: <a href="http://www.nti.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.nti.org</a><br />
It is similar to the 3 px drop bug in IE6 for which I had to use a proprietary <!--[if lt IE 7]&gt;--> hack.<br />
The problem only shows in the Firefox 3 for Mac version. Firefox for Windows is fine. I would appreciate any of your insight into how I can combat this in Firefox 3 for Mac. Is there any kind of proprietary code I can use? thanks.<br />
Sasha<br />
<a href="mailto:nikitin@nti.org">nikitin@nti.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: space man</title>
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		<dc:creator>space man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking about Firefox and Safari, I think they both are kinda equal...And its true that now it seems impossible to produce 64-bit builds of Firefox for Mac OS X. We in Russia trying to make something out of this:)By the way, I dont have problem with Firefox scrolling,goes pretty smooth:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about Firefox and Safari, I think they both are kinda equal&#8230;And its true that now it seems impossible to produce 64-bit builds of Firefox for Mac OS X. We in Russia trying to make something out of this:)By the way, I dont have problem with Firefox scrolling,goes pretty smooth:)</p>
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